The Reformulation '16 plus one' Interview

Yabsley, S., 2011. The Reformulation '16 plus one' Interview. Reformulation, Winter, p.67.


Sue Yabsley is an ACAT trustee and has just completed her IRRAPT training.  She has a systemic private practice and works 2 days per week for Somerset Partnership NHS Foundation Trust.

  1. Welcome to the interview – how are you doing?
    I’m very well!!
  2. In another life I would have been a…?
    An artist
    What sort of artist?
    Impressionist – I love the colour and romance
  3. Freud, Jung or Pavlov?
    Jung - I love the world of dreams and understanding ourselves via another level within
  4. Desert island luxury?
    Shark-free swimming!
  5. Bach, Mahler or Radiohead?
    Bach - Such drama and talent from such restriction
  6. Greatest hero/heroine?
    My mum!
  7. Cat, dog or Nintendo?
    Dog - I grew up with farm dogs and house dogs, and love the company of my dogs – they never argue with me!  They play and give me strength – and stop me working!
  8. Dream meal?
    Monkfish
    Isn’t it a bit chewy?
    No!!! Wonderful with creamy curry
  9. Who are you in the ‘CAT Village’?
    Trustee of ACAT
  10. Why did you become a psychotherapist?
    A fascination with the emotional cause and effect.
  11. Who has the biggest influence on the way you work?
    Peers and patients
  12. Recommended reading?
    Liz McKornick – Change for the Better.  Lord of the Rings. I love the way Liz thinks and Lord of the Rings says so much about human nature, RRPs and the power and effect of good and evil
  13. What do you hope to achieve with clients?
    Understanding
  14. How do you try to achieve this?
    Witnessing and explanation and exploration /wondering /alongside
  15. What is your number one CAT concept?
    Reciprocal Roles
  16. What do you see as a challenge for CAT in the future?
    Developing the model in line with statistics, while maintaining clinical appropriateness.

Follow/up: What question do you wish we had asked?
I know I could have put maps as my answer to No 15, but I think there is a question about maps and how they ‘are’ or ‘are not’, owned by the patient.  Not a perfect ‘map’ which is no use.

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